Hi all,
I ended last week asking the question:
Do thoughts have mass?
Scripture is full of references linking the spirit realm to the natural realm, perhaps the most definitive statement is from Hebrews 11:3:
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that the things which are seen were made by things which are not seen."
Things seen were made by "things that aren't seen" means 'things' exist in that realm: The spirit/Spirit realm DOES have mass, meaning our thoughts and motives do too...
The Greek word 'framed' in the King James Version of the English Bible is in Greek, 'katartizo', meaning to frame, to knit together, to prepare, to form - in other words all the seen universe and how it all works together from gravity to molecular and nuclear laws of physics, to the turning of the seasons to creation of the basic elements, all started in the invisible realm of the spirit, and more precisely, Spirit. The Person of the Word, Christ Jesus, framed the universe.
The example I use of teamwork between the Father, the outflow of His Spirit who Jesus said 'proceeds from the Father' in John 15:26, and the Son is this: The Father decides the car needs washed, so delegates that job to the son, who uses water to wash the car. We can say the Father did it, but he was more the planner, while the son did the work. And yet the agent that actually cleaned the car was the water. That is a snapshot of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
"God (Father) who in times past spoke in many different ways to the fathers through the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds." The Father used the Son to make the worlds. (Worlds is also translated 'universe', and 'ages' or epochs of time)
While we outwardly age, inwardly we become more vibrantly alive
"....though our outward man perishes, our inward man is renewed day by day...while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the unseen. For the things seen are temporary, but the things unseen are eternal." II Corinthians 4:16-18
How do we go through life looking at the unseen? We then are a bridge between the unseen spirit realm which renews and strengthens our spirit man, and the natural world which causes our bodies to age and decay. It is the spirit of man which has been recreated by the Holy Spirit that bridges that gap between the unseen and the seen, and as we dwell on the things of the spirit/Spirit, we are inwardly renewed. It is a bit of a paradox, that outwardly I am aging and going the way of the earth, yet inwardly I am more strong, more virile, more alive now than I was when I first came to the Lord over 43 years ago.
Somehow that life in the Spirit realm has substance that affects this realm. Somehow spiritual thoughts have the ability to create things in this lower realm of creation.
I can say this but it is merely a thought, an idea, an observation. But when I was given a tour of heaven I came away under the impression that the molecular structure of heaven functions at a much higher rate than molecules on earth. I would be compare it to a helicopter idling as the blades move slowly around, which is like earth's molecules, versus when the helicopter is taking off and the blades move very quickly which lifts it off the ground - which is what heaven's speed is like compared to earth (My observation, I have no way of proving it)
Knowing that which is beyond knowing
In Ephesians 3:17-19 Paul says that he is praying for them, and that if they are rooted and grounded in unconditional love (agape') they will be able to comprehend and to know the love of Christ which is beyond knowledge. How can a person know something that is beyond knowing?
He is talking about knowing Him in your spirit and knowing His great love for you, which cannot be comprehended in the mere mental realm of the brain.
'Mental' or 'cerebral' Christians will never know His love until and unless they learn to be in touch with and flow from their spirit. They will never experience the feeling of His love, for God is a Spirit, not a brain. People who keep God in the brain don't know how to flow or even be in touch with their spirit man, and therefore have great difficulty quite often praying in tongues - they operate from the brain, not the spirit. He flows out of the spirit to this natural realm, that is the bridge.
Without a doubt the greatest bridge between the unseen spirit realm and this realm is the person of Jesus Christ - all man, all God. Hebrews 1:3 says it this way:
"Who, being the brightness of His (Father's) glory, and the exact representation of His (Father's) image, and uphold all things by the Word of His (Father's) power, when He had by Himself purged our sins..." "Have I been such a long time with you Philip and you don't know: If you have seen me you have seen the Father." John 14:9
Science says...
In the natural our thoughts are nothing more than neural pathways in the brain, having no more mass nor substance than the electrical and chemical impulses that already exist in the brain. Thoughts are nothing more than electrical and chemical arrangements in the brain. Yet those thoughts manifest in action, which are quite solid. From thoughts come plans, buildings are designed and constructed, relationships begin and end - all that our lives are started in the thought processes.
We go back to our discussion of light and quantum physics, for God is light, and His thoughts are light, which carry good thoughts and plans for us that flow into our spirit and then upward to our soul and out to our bodies and physical world...and I've run out of room for today. Until next week, blessings,
John Fenn
www.cwowi.org and email me at cwowi@aol.com
I ended last week asking the question:
Do thoughts have mass?
Scripture is full of references linking the spirit realm to the natural realm, perhaps the most definitive statement is from Hebrews 11:3:
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that the things which are seen were made by things which are not seen."
Things seen were made by "things that aren't seen" means 'things' exist in that realm: The spirit/Spirit realm DOES have mass, meaning our thoughts and motives do too...
The Greek word 'framed' in the King James Version of the English Bible is in Greek, 'katartizo', meaning to frame, to knit together, to prepare, to form - in other words all the seen universe and how it all works together from gravity to molecular and nuclear laws of physics, to the turning of the seasons to creation of the basic elements, all started in the invisible realm of the spirit, and more precisely, Spirit. The Person of the Word, Christ Jesus, framed the universe.
The example I use of teamwork between the Father, the outflow of His Spirit who Jesus said 'proceeds from the Father' in John 15:26, and the Son is this: The Father decides the car needs washed, so delegates that job to the son, who uses water to wash the car. We can say the Father did it, but he was more the planner, while the son did the work. And yet the agent that actually cleaned the car was the water. That is a snapshot of Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
"God (Father) who in times past spoke in many different ways to the fathers through the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds." The Father used the Son to make the worlds. (Worlds is also translated 'universe', and 'ages' or epochs of time)
While we outwardly age, inwardly we become more vibrantly alive
"....though our outward man perishes, our inward man is renewed day by day...while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the unseen. For the things seen are temporary, but the things unseen are eternal." II Corinthians 4:16-18
How do we go through life looking at the unseen? We then are a bridge between the unseen spirit realm which renews and strengthens our spirit man, and the natural world which causes our bodies to age and decay. It is the spirit of man which has been recreated by the Holy Spirit that bridges that gap between the unseen and the seen, and as we dwell on the things of the spirit/Spirit, we are inwardly renewed. It is a bit of a paradox, that outwardly I am aging and going the way of the earth, yet inwardly I am more strong, more virile, more alive now than I was when I first came to the Lord over 43 years ago.
Somehow that life in the Spirit realm has substance that affects this realm. Somehow spiritual thoughts have the ability to create things in this lower realm of creation.
I can say this but it is merely a thought, an idea, an observation. But when I was given a tour of heaven I came away under the impression that the molecular structure of heaven functions at a much higher rate than molecules on earth. I would be compare it to a helicopter idling as the blades move slowly around, which is like earth's molecules, versus when the helicopter is taking off and the blades move very quickly which lifts it off the ground - which is what heaven's speed is like compared to earth (My observation, I have no way of proving it)
Knowing that which is beyond knowing
In Ephesians 3:17-19 Paul says that he is praying for them, and that if they are rooted and grounded in unconditional love (agape') they will be able to comprehend and to know the love of Christ which is beyond knowledge. How can a person know something that is beyond knowing?
He is talking about knowing Him in your spirit and knowing His great love for you, which cannot be comprehended in the mere mental realm of the brain.
'Mental' or 'cerebral' Christians will never know His love until and unless they learn to be in touch with and flow from their spirit. They will never experience the feeling of His love, for God is a Spirit, not a brain. People who keep God in the brain don't know how to flow or even be in touch with their spirit man, and therefore have great difficulty quite often praying in tongues - they operate from the brain, not the spirit. He flows out of the spirit to this natural realm, that is the bridge.
Without a doubt the greatest bridge between the unseen spirit realm and this realm is the person of Jesus Christ - all man, all God. Hebrews 1:3 says it this way:
"Who, being the brightness of His (Father's) glory, and the exact representation of His (Father's) image, and uphold all things by the Word of His (Father's) power, when He had by Himself purged our sins..." "Have I been such a long time with you Philip and you don't know: If you have seen me you have seen the Father." John 14:9
Science says...
In the natural our thoughts are nothing more than neural pathways in the brain, having no more mass nor substance than the electrical and chemical impulses that already exist in the brain. Thoughts are nothing more than electrical and chemical arrangements in the brain. Yet those thoughts manifest in action, which are quite solid. From thoughts come plans, buildings are designed and constructed, relationships begin and end - all that our lives are started in the thought processes.
We go back to our discussion of light and quantum physics, for God is light, and His thoughts are light, which carry good thoughts and plans for us that flow into our spirit and then upward to our soul and out to our bodies and physical world...and I've run out of room for today. Until next week, blessings,
John Fenn
www.cwowi.org and email me at cwowi@aol.com
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