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Relationship between heaven & earth #3

1/27/2017

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Hi all,
I've been sharing heaven's perspective these last 2 weeks, first about being 1 family no matter if that family is in heaven or still on earth, then how the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, present both in heaven and earth, and faithfully communicating what the Father and Lord have for us, and us to them. Today:
 
If God is in charge then why does He allow such horrible things to happen? 
 
What does the Bible actually say? This week and next are three areas He rarely becomes involved in, unless asked by individuals.
 
Nature 
We know that God is the Creator, and retains control over His creation. We are told in Hebrews 11:3 that the Person of the Living Word - the invisible Word - created the visible realm. Romans 1:20-21 says that He is Creator and even the invisible things about Him can be discerned by studying His creation. Jesus demonstrated His Lordship over creation in at least 3 areas: He commanded wind & waves and they obeyed Him, He walked on water, and multiplied loaves of bread (plants) and fish (animals). These 3 acts demonstrate His continued Lordship over the earthly elements and plants and animals. (We could add turning water into wine)
 
Jesus' demonstrations for the purpose of showing who He is in those moments does not mean He intervenes nor interferes with nature as a rule. The balance is Romans 8:19-23 which reveals creation has been subjected to sin and groans and travails (birth contractions) as it waits for the 'manifestation of the sons of God'. That means the establishment of Jesus' Kingdom on the earth and the lifting of the curse that accompanies that Kingdom - the reign of the righteous over earth. We might say Jesus' demonstrations of His Lordship over creation was given as a preview of what earth will be like with the curse lifted, but nothing more than a preview.
 
This means there is a tug of war going on between God's creation which wants to obey God and His people according to how it was originally designed, and the sin under which it has been placed. The elements of nature chafe against the burden of sin on the planet and as such groans and travails awaiting deliverance. This is why there are tragic earthquakes, volcanic events, tornadoes and hurricanes in which God does not intervene as a rule.
 
Even The Revelation (8:7-13) highlights 2 main natural events that come upon the earth in the last 7 years of the age - a double asteroid hit, one on land and one in an ocean. And yet still, man as a whole doesn't repent. (I have a CD/MP3 series entitled 'The Natural Disasters of The Revelation' if interested in learning more)
 
The question as to why God allows natural disasters is found in the short paragraphs above - the earth was not subjected to sin without hope, but like us, has been promised a time of release from sin. God does not step in to interfere with this process for what has been set, has been set from long ago and must take its course. 
 
Families
God invented the family, making Adam and Eve, assigning stewardship over the physical planet, meaning my point above flows directly into families. Adam and Eve first and then to others and eventually to us, were to share about the Creator and stewardship of creation - Families are God's delegated authority in the earth by which a mom and dad share responsibility for passing on stewardship over God's creation, and to walk with Him and know Him as they walk through life. 
 
When the Lord and 2 angels had a meal with Abraham in Genesis 18, after they ate the angels went to Sodom to rescue Lot and his family, but the Lord lingered behind saying to Himself: "Shall I hide from Abraham that which I'm about to do, for I know him, and that he will become a great and mighty nation and raise up his children and his household in the ways of the Lord..." The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was by a natural event - the place blew up, most think now the gathered methane and bitumen and other explosive elements around the Dead Sea were set off (in natural terms) by an asteroid hit or some other 'spark'. But again, we see the Lord wanting to reveal facts about a soon coming natural event to a man. (He would have saved any righteous people if He could have. Lot and family)
 
Notice that the Lord based His reasoning on sharing with Abraham what His plans were (and what natural event would happen) because of Abraham's family walking with Him. The reverse would also therefore be true: He would not reveal His plan to (Abraham and family) if the family wasn't walking in the ways of the Lord. 
 
Let me ask this - how many families who are not walking with God do you know have God speak to them about what He is doing in the earth, their community, and their own lives? How much did you know of God's will before you were born again? If that mom and dad don't want Him, then He doesn't get involved. To whom does He reveal His ways and plans? Family members who walk with Him. If you are in Him, you have revelation. If you aren't in Him, you have no revelation. 
 
Warning: The following 3 paragraphs will kill religious thinking and might cause you to rearrange your priorities
The family and its members remain the primary way His will is done on earth - not apostles, not prophets, not buildings called church, not pastors. That is auditorium thinking brought about by man in the 300's AD that you've been infected with. God invented mom and dad and children long before He made apostles and prophets - in fact Adam and Eve, and therefore moms and dads ARE apostles and prophets, pastors and teachers, and evangelists to their children. The greatest use of 'the 5-fold' started with Adam and Eve, and is today a mom and dad living for God and teaching their children by example and word, how to walk through life with Him. In our New Testament times that flow of mom and dad 5-fold extend outward to the larger family of God 5-fold that meets in homes in a network of relationships. As a result, any charismatic gifts, any ministry gifts (like 5-fold), any energy/motivational gifts present in a gathering of believers flows from healthy and balanced believing families who first live in these things. 
 
My mom was an evangelist to me. She was my first teacher, pastor, certainly prophet, and for sure apostle in that she started the work of God in my heart - followed very quickly by a high school friend, Janny, who remains a close friend to this day with Barb and me, who was all those things to us as well. Reset your understanding of 'the 5-fold' and the gifts of the Spirit. They are first found in families, for that is what God established first, and all else flows from family. 
 
Over the years I've seen men and women, husbands and fathers, wives and mothers, chasing this convention and that conference praying for God's will to be done, praying for revival including revival in their families - all while they have spent thousands of their family's dollars and left their family's for several days to pray for their salvation, instead of walking in God's highest and best and original call, to be husband and wife, mom and dad, and being the 5-fold to their children. 
 
And each person I talked to in detail about their priorities in life expressed frustration with God because He didn't seem to be moving in their family. My advice remains consistent through the years - the primary way God moves is through families, so go and be a family and leave your religious face at the door - and just be there, living God's ways and fellowship quietly. God only labels the manifestations of what He does for our benefit, but being meek and lowly in heart, He doesn't think in terms of labels and titles, He just does what He does - and that can mean giving a mom or dad words of wisdom or knowledge, a miracle for their child, special faith, and certainly they are pastors and teachers and the rest - BE that person with meekness and humility within your family. 
 
I've run out of space this week, but will start next week by asking and then answering the question: Where is God when children become victims? 
 
Until then, nest week! Blessings,
John Fenn
cwowi.org and email me at cwowi@aol.com
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Relationship between heaven & earth #2

1/20/2017

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​Hi all,
I'm sharing about the relationship between heaven and earth that you may be encouraged. 
 
I love hearing the Father's perspective and the Lord's, because the reality of renewing our minds is actually the process in which we start to think like Him and living by His perspective on things. That means when we learn of heaven's point of view we adjust our thinking accordingly, so that when something catches us by surprise here on earth we can call to remembrance once again, heaven's point of view. 
 
The Holy Spirit is an eye witness
On the day of Pentecost as recorded in Acts 2:25-32, Peter said King David saw the resurrection of Jesus some 1000 years future: "...David said about Him...seeing this before, spoke of the resurrection of Christ..." and in 5:32: "...and we are witnesses of these things, so is the Holy Spirit..."
 
This is how heaven operates - the Holy Spirit is the link between heaven and earth and He knows what is happening in both realms. The way He showed David the resurrection of Jesus 1000 years future is the same way He shows you something about your future. He is an eyewitness both to events here on earth, and to events in the heart of the Father even if those events are 1000 years in the future!
 
Jesus said in John 16:13 of the Holy Spirit: "When He comes, the Holy Spirit of truth, He will guide you into all truth for He won't speak of Himself, but only what He hears. And He will show you things to come." 
 
This is why there are no prayers to the Holy Spirit in the New Testament (and to do otherwise is unscriptural no matter what any preacher says or writes, Jesus was very clear here) for He only repeats what He hears from the Father and Son. As Jesus had said just before this statement about the way the Holy Spirit functions: "I have many other things to say to you, but you cannot grasp them now. However when He the Spirit of truth comes He will guide you into all truth, for He doesn't speak of His own, but only speaks what He hears..." The Father is the granter of prayers, the Holy Spirit is just the Messenger between Him and us on earth.
 
Any experience anyone has on this earth, from being born of the Spirit to seeing Jesus or even carried away 'in the Spirit' as the apostle John described it in The Revelation 1:10 and 4:2, is via the Holy Spirit. He is the enabler by which all things in heaven are made known here on earth.
 
An analogy would be what I've used many times before: A father is going to wash a car, so he tells the son to wash it. The son uses water to wash the car. The father planned it, the son did it, the water was the agent used to actually do the cleaning. The Father planned it, the Son did it, the Holy Spirit is the agent used to actually do the 'cleaning'. All things here on earth that are of God, are done by the Holy Spirit, from revelation that Jesus is the Christ, to the new birth, to communication from earth to heaven and heaven to earth. 
 
Knowing what I said last week of Paul's statement that there is one family in heaven and earth, we must therefore understand it is the Holy Spirit who is in both places uniting this one family in two realms. 
 
Furthermore, Paul elaborated on Jesus' statement of John 16:13 that the Holy Spirit only repeats what He hears in I Corinthians 2:9-16. As He expanded that teaching he starts by saying a person's eyes, ears, and mind cannot discern or know what the Father has prepared for us (they are foolishness to natural man). But the Spirit knows what has been prepared because "He searches all things, yea, the deep things of (Father) God." and "We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit of God, so that we might know all things He has provided for us."
 
The Holy Spirit is right now searching the Father God to know what He has prepared for you - this moment, this hour, this day, this week, this year, and beyond. 
 
The Holy Spirit is a true and faithful witness to the heart of the Father, and of the Lord Jesus, the Head of the body. David in about 1000 BC saw the resurrection of Jesus, and Peter stated the Holy Spirit was also a witness 'of these things'. When you have a peace about a decision you make that peace comes to your spirit because the Holy Spirit is bearing witness that what you decided is in fact what the Father has provided for you. This is why Jesus called Him the 'Spirit of Truth' in John 16:13. He won't lie about what He heard in heaven. He won't change anything about what He heard in heaven.
 
He changes nothing from what He hears to what He then puts in your spirit - peace, comfort, joy, excitement that your mind doesn't know why you have, because He has searched the Father for His provision, found it, and tells you by that peace that your decision is exactly what the Father has prepared for you. Amazing grace!
 
Heaven's perspective on this
Barb and I had been worshipping for about an hour and then she went off to bed, but I lingered. Suddenly, Jesus was there in the living room and He said "I want to teach you about prayer." During that teaching I learned that most prayer actually begins in the heart of the Father God, who wants to bring His will into people's lives. That should not be a surprise for we've all prayed the 'Lord's Prayer', that His will be done on earth as it is in heaven, but in this visitation I suddenly realized He does so person by person bringing HIs kingdom into their hearts and outward to their lives. Up to that moment I had thought of the Lord's prayer as a sort of 'come and set up your kingdom all over the earth' rather than 'come and set up your kingdom in my heart and then outward into my life.'
 
I saw the Father looking for someone to be sensitive to a desire He had for His will in someone's life, but He needed legal access into that person's life. An example would be of those of us who pray for a patient in an ambulance as it drives past us lights and siren blaring. The person they are transporting or on their way too get may not have anyone who is praying for them, and our prayer is actually granting legal access for the Father to enter earth and in particular their situation. He is such a gentleman and free will being what it is, He may have been shut out of that person's life for decades - until that moment when because of His great love for that person, He ordered your steps to be at that place at that time so that you could ask Him to become involved in their life. 
 
I've had two times in two separate visitations where the Lord has said, "The Father and I will not be blamed on that last day. For the day will reveal we were fair and just in all things, and no one will place blame at our feet on that day."
 
The first time He said that was following this statement: "When a person vows a vow to Me or the Father, we take it seriously for most of the times those vows come from the heart, not just the emotion (flesh)." I asked what He meant and He said, "There are many times a person will say 'I will go anywhere for you Lord. I will do anything you ask of me Lord', and things like that. Heaven takes that seriously because it is from their spirit, but then so often sin and distractions enter in and they go off in another direction for their life." 
 
"When they vowed that vow, according to the Spirit of Truth, heaven made preparation for their lives according to their vow. Then, when they go in another direction and face hardship and sometimes great loss, even over decades of going their own way, they sometimes blame me or the Father for allowing those things to happen. But the Father and I will not be blamed on that last day. For the day will reveal we were fair and just in all things, and no one will place blame at our feet on that day. They will see then if not first in this life, the errors of their ways." Interestingly to me, Jesus expressed no condemnation for the person with this statement, it was just fact, just that His grace is so much bigger than our failures that He died for us anyway, and in the end He wants the goodness of the Father to be revealed to all.
 
You see, the Spirit of Truth as a witness works both ways - not only of searching the Father for His provision and even showing us things provided in our future, but also the other direction, according to promises we make here and now, which causes heavenly preparation to be made, the Spirit searching the depths of our heart and how we have prepared for God in our lives. 
 
The good news is we cannot out maneuver, out guess, or surprise the Father. He knew from before the foundation of the world all our broken promises, all our detours from His will - yet He will be shown to have been faithful to plan according to our spirit man's vows, and thus when He reveals our error and sin, we will along with all mankind, fall on our faces and give glory to the Father for His great grace and mercy for we will all see He does all things well, and He will (finally) be shown to all beings to be the Only Good and Just Father above all. 
 
Continuing next week...until then, blessings,
John Fenn
www.cwowi.org and email me at cwowi@aol.com
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Relationship between heaven and earth #1

1/13/2017

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Hi all,
The last 3 weeks I've been sharing 'quantum physics' things, and today I'm starting on a tangent from that - talking about the relationship between heaven and earth, and related things I've seen in heaven.
 
But first, some basics
Hebrews 12:1 says "Therefore, seeing that we are surrounded with such a large cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight and sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race set before us."
 
He isn't bringing up the cloud of witnesses to make a doctrinal statement, but rather to encourage us that they have gone ahead, and it is worth it. In the previous chapter he had described the faith of many men and women, even alluding to Isaiah's death of being sawn in two. These all and more are included in the cloud of witnesses, so therefore go forth with confidence - it is worth it and heaven is real!
 
Verses supporting this...
In Luke 24:44 the risen Lord says to His disciples, "Don't you remember when I was with you I told you these things?", clearly though now resurrected He kept His memory of His life on earth intact. You remember everything, nothing is lost. Remember in The Revelation 7:17 and 21:4 it says the Father will wipe away our tears - clearly a reference to memories from this life still fresh, but one day all pain will be gone. 
 
Remember Moses and Elijah appeared to a glorified Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration, as Luke 9:31 says, "and spoke to Him of His death which would happen at Jerusalem." Moses and Elijah had long since departed, but here they were talking form the Mosaic Law (Moses) about the type and shadows Jesus would fulfill by His death and resurrection, and the Prophets (Elijah) sharing the prophecies about the same. They had been long gone, yet they knew exactly what was going on. 
 
In The Revelation, 6:10 the apostle John who was 'in the Spirit' taken to heaven and shown future events, describes a multitude of saints before the Father's throne asking "How long oh Lord holy and true until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge us?" Those people remembered their lives on earth, clearly. 
 
That doesn't mean...
That doesn't mean your long gone great great grandmother is watching you use the bathroom, lol. But it does mean they are aware of what is happening on earth.
 
During my 'tour' of heaven my angel and I walked past a group of people that included about a dozen adults and 2 young children, a boy and a girl. The girl seemed to be maybe 5 or 6, and the boy was less than 2 years old. They were all gathered around a tree and the adults were talking amongst themselves, and the girl was sitting cross legged with her back against the tree, her little brother crawling all over her and around. The adults were clearly engaged with the little children, and the feeling in the air around them was like a family reunion, with several conversations going on at once in the group.
 
As we walked by I asked what I was seeing, and the angel explained they were all aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents of those children, going back several generations. But there was clearly a generation not present - the parents of the children. So I asked, "Where are their parents?" 
 
He said, "These 2 were killed in a car accident in (US State), but their parents survived. In heaven when possible, children are raised by their relatives." I was once again astonished, and said, "I need chapter and verse on that!" He didn't hesitate: "You've read what Paul wrote in Ephesians 3:14 and 15, 'For this cause I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named.' There is only one family, (he paused to let me take that in) so when a child comes here they are raised when possible by relatives." 
 
Sharing something personal
My mother died in 2006, but she was first in the Lord in our family, having sought Him after dad left our family. She loved the Lord, but was rather limited in her knowledge due to the constraints of her denomination, and I shared with her many of my experiences with the Lord through the years.
 
Her body was cremated and we had a small service at the church, her ashes being buried in a small church yard and garden provided for such things. Once back at my sister's house we were playing in the in-ground pool, relaxing, reflecting, and for me, floating. Suddenly standing at the edge of the pool I saw my angel, with my mother on his right side, plain as day. Next to her was someone obscured in the light of heaven and whose face was thus obscured. 
 
I was amazed, and just stared. My eyes were wide open and I looked over at my sister on her lounge chair, then to my brother playing in the pool, and then back. Mom looked to be about 35, not the 72 year old world-worn woman she was when she died. In fact later that week we were going through a box of old photographs and found a Church Directory picture of us all in about 1968, when mom was about 34, and she looked almost identical in her hair and face. 
 
But I was just stunned to see my angel and mom standing side by side on the edge of the pool. I've seen my angel more times than I can count, but I didn't expect this! She didn't hesitate: "John! Everything you said about heaven is true! But you didn't tell the half of it! I'm having the time of my life, seeing old friends and relatives, and even meeting some who knew me as a child but I never knew. John! Live your life! Live your life!" and they suddenly disappeared and I have't seen her since. 
 
Barb and I wonder if that third person was the miscarried brother or sister that was between me and my next younger brother. I don't know. 
 
I've run out of room for today - more next week - seeing that we are surrounded with such a cloud, let us run the race with godliness...until then, blessings,
John Fenn
cwowi.org and email me at cwowi@aol.com
 
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Jesus and some quantum physics things #3

1/6/2017

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Hi all,
I'm sharing a few things I've asked the Lord during visitations that fall under the category of 'quantum physics', continuing today with the question: "How did you walk through the crowds in Luke 4:29-30 and John 8:58-59?"
 
Setting the context of my understanding
Luke 4 records Jesus in His hometown reading in synagogue from Isaiah 61: 1-2, stopping mid-verse: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me; because the Lord has anointed me to preach good news to the meek, to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to those who are bound; to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord..." and He stopped and sat down, saying 'This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.'
 
Let me insert here why He stopped mid-sentence. it is because the whole verse says: "To preach the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God."
 
Jesus stopped at 'the acceptable year of the Lord' and sat down. The Jews (to this day) didn't understand their would be two appearances by Messiah - one to pay for sin and one to bring His kingdom to earth as the conquering King. This verse includes both - the acceptable year of the Lord AND the day of vengeance of our God.
 
What the Father never told anyone is the mystery of the 2 appearing's, planned from the start yet to us a surprise; that God included the opportunity for Gentiles - non-Jews - to become part of the covenant. Ephesians 3:3-6; "How God made known to me the mystery, the mystery that had been hidden from ages and generations, but is now revealed to His holy apostles and prophets, that the Gentiles should be made fellow heirs..."
 
"Even the mystery which was kept secret from ages and generations, but is now revealed to His saints, to whom God would make known the riches of His glory in this mystery to the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory." Colossians 1:26-27
 
"But now to the power which can establish you in Christ Jesus, a mystery which was kept secret since the world began but is now being revealed to all nations for the obedience of faith..." Romans 16:25-26
 
This is why Old Testament prophecies seem to go point to point without mention of the church - God had not revealed to any Old Testament prophets that there would be about a 2,000 year season when He would give the Gentiles the opportunity to come into covenant with Him - that only became known at and after Pentecost when all people received the Holy Spirit, children and the aged, men and women, slaves and free, without regard to nation, social, or ethnic group - all are equal in Christ. 
 
But in Luke 4, they didn't know any of that and much of what Jesus shared with the disciples later about 'the church' was lost on them at the time as a result. These last 2,000 years has been largely for the Gentiles, but there will be a time when (we) are removed and God will once again focus on Israel - the last 7 years of the age. Jesus said "Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled*" and Paul said, "Blindness in part has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in."* Luke 21:24, Romans 11:25
 
Back to Jesus nearly being thrown off a cliff; Luke 4:28-30
Jesus stopped mid-sentence perplexing the audience, and even more when He said Isaiah 61:1-2a had been fulfilled that day! After He made other statements:
 
"And they in the synagogue, all who heard these things, were filled with wrath, and rose up and thrust Him out of the city, to a brow of a hill upon which their city was built, that they might throw Him down from there headlong. But He, passing through the midst of them, went His way."
 
How did He walk through 'the midst of them' and go His way? That's what I wanted to know. 
 
Jesus going through another crowd: John 8: 58-59
"Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you; Before Abraham was, I AM'. And they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple through the midst of them, and so passed by." 
 
The phrase 'through the midst of them' uses 'meso' for 'midst', in this sense as an adverb describing the action - He walked right through the middle of the crowd in each case. The word 'hid' is exactly that - hide or conceal. So I wanted to know how He did each of those disappearing acts. Some would suggest He threw a wrap over His face and pushed His way through, but that doesn't make sense since He was 1 man against an angry mob intent on murdering Him. Some have supposed He blinded them temporarily or some other supernatural explanation - I wanted to know, so I asked. 
 
The only time He has referred to contemporary culture to explain Himself
"Remember the Matrix and how they moved in a way it seemed bullets flying at them were in slow motion? It was like that. Remember the episode of Star Trek where the crew of the Enterprise heard a buzzing sound, until some of them entered that dimension and found beings moving much faster than normal time, which was making that buzzing sound to the crew of the Enterprise. They were moving so fast that to them, it seemed the crew was almost standing still."
 
"Remember, I AM. So all I had to do was speed up near the speed of light, and to me, it seemed like they were moving very slowly, but to them they suddenly couldn't see me and I walked through their midst." 
 
Jesus stated several times He was the I AM. As I shared last week, in Matthew 14:27 when walking on the water towards the frightened men: "Be happy! I AM! Now stop being afraid." Also here in John 8:58, "Before Abraham was; I AM". And in John 18:5-6 when they came looking for Him and He asked who they were looking for. They responded, "Jesus of Nazareth...and He said to them; 'I AM!' And when He said to them, I AM, immediately they moved backwards and fell to the ground."
 
In the last case He unleashed enough of His power to let all present know He was going voluntarily to His death, not by force. He is the I AM, the One who spoke to Moses from the burning bush, the Ever-present One. 
 
I can't explain this with chapter and verse but I believe...
We've all seen pictures of atoms, or at least recognize a picture of a nucleus with orbiting smaller particles like electrons and neutrons and protons - we've all been to school after all, lol. Somehow molecules - assuming there are spiritual realm molecules (but for lack of a better term) the Lord's realm seem to move at a faster rate than molecules on earth. 
 
When I was given a tour of heaven one of the most amazing things was the ability of my eyes to examine anything I wanted as close as I wanted. I remember the first thing I looked at was a tree about 1/2 mile away (.8km) and just by willing it I could look closer and closer at a leaf until I was looking with unaided eye at the molecular structure - and could even see the atoms moving and hear the hum. I was so startled I immediately started doing that with everything I saw - trees and each tree of a different kind had a slightly different hum than other trees of other species - yet somehow I knew they were all grouped in the same category of hum - not sure how to explain it better than that. 
 
I looked at grass, flowers, rock, the living water - and it all seemed to be moving at a level higher than earthly molecules move - as a higher level of existence and being. 
 
I think that is the action the Lord was referring to when He said He sped up, close to the speed of light - and it makes me wonder about the same process in transporting the boat half way across the lake, and later how Philip was instantly taken 20 miles or so (32km) to meet up with the Ethiopian official. Paul says it so elegantly in I Corinthians 15:39-54 in part: "All flesh is not the same flesh...there are bodies celestial, and bodies terrestrial....it is sown a natural body, it is raise a spiritual body...as we have born the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly...for corruption must put on incorruption, and mortal must put on immortality..."
 
I hope this has been a blessing - maybe at a later time I'll share more, but for now a lot of what I've seen and heard remain private - Jesus is amazing! New subject next week, until then, blessings,
John Fenn
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